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endings of words [ little, tittle, puzzle, sigil ] from the same origin?
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HenHanna
2024-03-31 20:48:23 UTC
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Are the endings of words [ little, tittle, puzzle, $%*sigil ] from the
same origin?


No, the endings of the words "little," "tittle," "puzzle," and "sigil"
are not from the same origin.

Little: The "-tle" ending comes from Proto-Germanic roots
associated with smallness and bending.

Tittle: This word likely originated from a Latin term "titulus"
meaning "inscription" or "superscription." The "-le" ending here is
likely influenced by the French diminutive suffix "-le," which means
"small."

Puzzle: This word's origin is uncertain, but it likely emerged in
Middle English. The most common theory suggests it relates to the
verb "to pose" or "to be bewildering." The "-le" ending here might
be a suffix added to form a noun, similar to "dazzle" or "wrinkle."

Sigil: The "-il" ending comes directly from the Latin word
"sigillum" (seal), where it reflects a Latin grammatical case.


__________ Even though "little," "tittle," and "puzzle" all end in
"-le," their etymological roots differ.

"Sigil" borrows the ending directly from Latin.
Tilde
2024-04-01 03:50:39 UTC
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Post by HenHanna
Are the endings of words [ little, tittle, puzzle, $%*sigil ] from the
same origin?
On a possible related note

https://www.abarim-publications.com/NaLi/2plusEl.html

Names ending in "el"
wugi
2024-04-02 16:46:39 UTC
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Post by HenHanna
Are the endings of words [ little, tittle, puzzle, $%*sigil ] from the
same origin?
No, the endings of the words "little," "tittle," "puzzle," and "sigil"
are not from the same origin.
Little:       The "-tle" ending comes from Proto-Germanic roots
associated with smallness and bending.
Tittle:       This word likely originated from a Latin term "titulus"
meaning "inscription" or "superscription." The "-le" ending here is
likely influenced by the French diminutive suffix "-le," which means
"small."
Puzzle:       This word's origin is uncertain, but it likely emerged in
Middle English.    The most common theory suggests it relates to the
verb "to pose" or "to be bewildering."     The "-le" ending here might
be a suffix added to form a noun, similar to "dazzle" or "wrinkle."
not a noun: a frequentative.
Post by HenHanna
Sigil:       The "-il" ending comes directly from the Latin word
"sigillum" (seal), where it reflects a Latin grammatical case.
__________ Even though "little," "tittle," and "puzzle" all end in
"-le," their etymological roots differ.
"Sigil" borrows the ending directly from Latin.
According to etymonline:

Little: perhaps a diminutive of OE. lyt "little, few"
Tittle: like title, from L. titulus, of unknown origin (looks like a
diminutive but...) (F. titre, Sp. tilde)
Puzzle: possibly frequentative of "pose", comp. nuzzle/nose.
Sigil: from L. sigillum, diminutive of signum, "sign".

The possible relationship between L. and Germanic diminutive endings
-ilus, -ulus, -il/-el... and also with frequentatives -ul/ilare; -le,
-el/eln/elen, -er/ern/eren... would interest me as well.
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guido wugi
Ed Cryer
2024-04-02 20:57:35 UTC
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Post by HenHanna
Are the endings of words [ little, tittle, puzzle, $%*sigil ] from the
same origin?
No, the endings of the words "little," "tittle," "puzzle," and "sigil"
are not from the same origin.
Little:       The "-tle" ending comes from Proto-Germanic roots
associated with smallness and bending.
Tittle:       This word likely originated from a Latin term "titulus"
meaning "inscription" or "superscription." The "-le" ending here is
likely influenced by the French diminutive suffix "-le," which means
"small."
Puzzle:       This word's origin is uncertain, but it likely emerged in
Middle English.    The most common theory suggests it relates to the
verb "to pose" or "to be bewildering."     The "-le" ending here might
be a suffix added to form a noun, similar to "dazzle" or "wrinkle."
not a noun: a frequentative.
Post by HenHanna
Sigil:       The "-il" ending comes directly from the Latin word
"sigillum" (seal), where it reflects a Latin grammatical case.
__________ Even though "little," "tittle," and "puzzle" all end in
"-le," their etymological roots differ.
"Sigil" borrows the ending directly from Latin.
Little: perhaps a diminutive of OE. lyt "little, few"
Tittle: like title, from L. titulus, of unknown origin (looks like a
diminutive but...) (F. titre, Sp. tilde)
Puzzle: possibly frequentative of "pose", comp. nuzzle/nose.
Sigil: from L. sigillum, diminutive of signum, "sign".
The possible relationship between L. and Germanic diminutive endings
-ilus, -ulus, -il/-el... and also with frequentatives -ul/ilare; -le,
-el/eln/elen, -er/ern/eren... would interest me as well.
Latin source; and before that, no doubt, Indo-Europaean.
Graeculus
Dolabella
Homunculus
etc
etc
etc
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Ed
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